Re: How to avoid stealth installation of systemd?
On 2014-07-01, Steve Langasek <email@example.com> wrote:
> Show me a bug report, not FUD.
I'd rather point to the likely-faulty code.
it is likely in or around
when checking for suspend capabilities with upower from experimental.
Something in there doesn't properly detect that systemd-shim + logind actually can
let you suspend the machine (and upower 0.99 has delegated it to
>> Also, post-upgrade-pre-reboot systems has had issues since forever,
> No. There have been very few instances in which the system was left in an
> unusable state after a dist-upgrade, even for desktops.
Try do a update of your kde-plasma-desktop across where the internal
on-disk data cache changes (at least every y in x.y.z, and sometimes in
.z releases). The web browser stops working, the email application stops
working, anything that uses the on-disk caches for looking up their
plugins ceases to work.
This is how it has been as long as I've been around.
>> and I think even the upgrade notes recommends to not dist-upgrade from
>> within X.
> This was written at a time when X itself was considered flaky enough that it
> posed a risk to the user's ability to complete the upgrade. After years of
|4.1.5. Prepare a safe environment for the upgrade
|The distribution upgrade should be done either locally from a textmode
|virtual console (or a directly connected serial terminal), or remotely
|via an ssh link.
> Unless we bring one back by letting systemd + desktop environments screw us
> over anew.
Here is nothing new.