Re: systemd-fsck?
On Tue, May 13, 2014 18:03, Russ Allbery wrote:
>
>> The update to the first Debian stable release running systemd will most
>> probably be the most painful update Debian has ever had since switching
>> to glibc (which was well before I started using Linux).
>
> I highly doubt it.
>
>> We would be wise to make the last non-systemd release an LTS one so that
>> enterprise users can stay on that release until the systems these
>> installations run are retired.
>
> You're aware, right, that my primary background is with enterprise use,
> and I've been doing large-site systems administration for twenty years?
>
> systemd is a godsend with basically no downside for our enterprise use
> cases. I expect almost no problems across our entire environment, plus,
> as a bonus, the opportunity to replace a bunch of homegrown hacks and
> obscure approaches (such as all our lingering use of daemontools) with
> something supportable, maintainable, and much better-documented.
>
> Upgrading to systemd will be less painful than the sorts of things that we
> have to do with every Debian upgrade. Particularly PHP changes, which
> always result in at least some heartburn. It will also be much less
> painful than the Apache 2.4 transition (which I'm also really looking
> forward to, but which will involve way more work for us) and moving to
> Puppet 3.x. Compared to those, the minor bits of fiddling required to
> make sure systemd works properly is noise.
I could not agree more. In our enterprise environment, I have no
expectation at all that systemd will cause us significant trouble on
upgrades. Our troubles have centered things like grub1 to grub2 or,
indeed, new PHP and Perl versions, and I find it very likely that the
upgrade to jessie will again be around that and not at all around the init
system.
Cheers,
Thijs
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