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Re: Bug#727708: Fsck SystemD and its developers and its users. GR to override this please.



Hi!

On 02/12/2014 01:04 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 02/12/2014 03:01 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>> Why not stop here with OpenRC and call it day?
>> You cannot always win in life :).
> 
> Short version:
> 
> Why don't you just call it a day, and let me work on what I wish? What
> is your problem with me working on it???

My problem is your attitude. I don't have any problems to let you work
on what you want, as I said before, I appreciate your work. However,
I have a problem with how you reacted when it was clear that your
favored system would not be chosen as default. All kinds of accusations
against members of the TC ("OpenRC was not considered at all") and
being huffy like a little child that didn't get what he wanted [1].

My statement about letting go was about you accepting that the TC
has made up their minds, nothing else.

> Longer version:
> 
> Part of why I work on OpenRC is because I find it fun, when I'm tired of
> doing the OpenStack packaging (which is maybe 75% made of very
> repetitive Python module packaging) and need recreation with my
> computer. And doing so, I believe it's producing something useful, and
> which seems to gather some interest (which is very hard to evaluate how
> much), which is enough to motivate me.

Good. At least you're being honest now. It's your hobby.

> That you don't believe in the technology is a well established point,
> and we all got it. Nobody needs another occurrence of this. And the fact
> that you don't find this work useful will not change *ANYTHING* to this
> Adrian. Even with all what you wrote, you didn't succeed in destroying
> the fun I have hacking OpenRC.

Then why on earth are you reiterating your points over and over again
and acted like that when you didn't get what you want? Just accept
it and move on. No one keeps you from hacking on OpenRC and I *never*
said you should stop doing that, as I said in a previous mail, I
appreciate your work.

> This is the first instance I see in Debian of someone trying to convince
> another person to *not* work on something. Please give up trying to
> convince me not to do what I do, I'm a grown up, and I can decide for
> myself.

I was *NOT* trying you to convince you to stop working on something,
you are putting words into my mouth that I never said. I said, you
should stop trying to push your opinion about what should be the
default init system when the committee has already made it's decision.

And now, I'm out of this discussion, the decision has been made and
I have been threatened with violence - twice.

Happy OpenRC hacking (no, don't mean this sarcastically!)

Adrian

> [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/01/msg00340.html

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