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Re: Bug#727708: Fsck SystemD and its developers and its users. GR to override this please.

On 02/11/2014 12:23 PM, Olav Vitters wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:27:04AM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>> And this is very much what I would see in Debian. Use your desktop
>> and applications of choice and you will get support, but if you
>> want to change core components, you are free to do so, but you
>> will lose support.
>  [ Below all not directed to John, just additional comments ]

The name's Adrian :).

> If suddenly OpenRC (or whatever) gets loads and loads of contributors,
> gets lots of init scripts, solves/provides an logind alternative and
> does whatever to improve then it should be supported. However, the
> support should come from the OpenRC team / interested people. You cannot
> assign :-P

Yes, but we are not talking about hypothetical things. I am also not
planning my life for the case that I am winning the lottery tomorrow.

The current situation is that OpenRC has little adoption and a very
small development team while systemd is quite the opposite on both
terms. And this is an important fact you cannot ignore.

> IMO (and I'm an interested part / GNOME dude, so no say): blocking
> progress is bad. So if someone wants to add OpenRC scripts to packages
> and maintenance is low: as packager you should be allowing that to
> happen. As long as the time required on packagers part is minimal. Only
> by not blocking progress things can move to working nicely. But that
> also means that it really falls under the task of people interested in
> something different to make such change happen. At the moment there is
> too much "blocking progress" going on IMO (but then against anything
> other than sysvinit).

I agree. In any case, the OpenRC supporters should understand that their
system isn't high priority just as the m68k port isn't high priority
meaning "I am not going to block you from doing your own thing, but
don't expect me to invest lots of time and efforts into it."


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