Hi, On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 09:10:56PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > Again, I do not understand how our users will actually profit from > being able to choose their init system. I am a minimalist - I like sysvrc as it is today and i dont like the "i can build a daemon which replaces most of the userspace and runs at pid 1". Name it "userspaced" - link gnome and libreoffice against it and be done. So yes - i am one of the Debian users who'd like to run a minimal as possible init and i'd like to have the choice. I dont care about boot times or dependency based booting. I boot my desktop/notebook once a month and servers more or less every couple of years. sysvinit has done that for me for approx. 30 years and i really dont see the need to change it. I like to quickly change init scripts by writing shell code in them, disabling portions of environment checks or preparing environment before start. The more dependencies and functionality you put into systemd the more i run away in disgust. Flo PS: For me the systemd feels like DJB dropping of qmail and telling everyone that its the _only_ mail system everybody should use. It was fine in a way - it had new concepts - but it was a horrible failure. -- Florian Lohoff f@zz.de
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