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Re: Bug#727708: tech-ctte: Decide which init system to default to in Debian.

> > >For those who haven't seen it, Lennart has posted some of his comments
> > >about all this on G+:
> > >https://plus.google.com/u/0/115547683951727699051/posts/8RmiAQsW9qf  
> > 
> > And the RH PR circus has already started around it.
> > 
> > Lennart's g+ note is written in his usual half-truth/half-omission
> > mode. Not helpful at all.  
> Aside from ack that it he really believes in systemd (duh!): I've seen
> various technical bits in this Google+ post. I see none in your reply,
> only a dismissal.

Perhaps this is why Google who use Ubuntu have released their
apparently very good cgroup handler which they have a huge amount
invested in.

I totally agree with the session bus when it is the right tool but the
system bus and especially it's run as root/suid bit (system-services)
going away would actually be a plus for me and many who care about

RedHat said years ago programmers can be guaranteed and depend on the
system bus ALWAYS being available, which is just rediculous!

PID1 may not contain a high percentage of what systemd does but as it
tries to do everything that means nothing, it is still > 10 times the
size (hundreds of kilobytes, who knows how many lines) larger than init
and I'm sure upstart to the point that it takes ages to boot due to cpu
usage on some embedded systems(see the buildroot list). I'll say no
more to prevent the usual "Turing Complete" bullshit argument popping
up but as complex as you choose is a good thing.


'Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work
together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a
universal interface'

(Doug McIlroy)

In Other Words - Don't design like polkit or systemd

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