On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:18:04PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le jeudi 23 mai 2013 à 22:06 +0200, Marc Haber a écrit : > > Yes, systemd trying to replace so much of traditional UNIX tools at > > once and so blatantly breaking the "One job one tool" principle that > > has made our platform so successful is one major part of the > > acceptance issues that systemd has in Debian. > > I’d bother answering to that, but Lennart already did. Myth #1: > http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/the-biggest-myths.html > > Systemd is just as much monolithic as, say, coreutils. I can use only parts of coreutils if I desire. Also, coreutils does not start services on startup that I do not need. systemd, on the other hand, has spawned systemd-journald, which I do not want or need, which is autorestarted, and which cannot be stopped with service. Since I am not using its functionality, there is no point in having the service running. rsyslog is very capable. Also, traditionally init has been limited to starting and stopping groups of services. It has not been involved in logging, session management, seat management, hotkey handling, or suspend and resume, except perhaps to start and stop the services which perform those functions. However well-intentioned, systemd does a lot more than init traditionally has, and definitely encroaches into areas that were not traditionally init-related. The Unix Way is to use separate processes for separate tasks. -- brian m. carlson / brian with sandals: Houston, Texas, US +1 832 623 2791 | http://www.crustytoothpaste.net/~bmc | My opinion only OpenPGP: RSA v4 4096b: 88AC E9B2 9196 305B A994 7552 F1BA 225C 0223 B187
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