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Re: Removing the MTA from the default install

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
<hmh@debian.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 02 May 2012, Aron Xu wrote:
>> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> wrote:
>> > On Wed, May 02, 2012 at 10:02:37AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
>> >> Is this the right time to do it?
>> > No.  Cron needs some way to report about its jobs, mdadm has to notify about
>> > failures, etc, etc.
>> >
>> > On the other hand, going from a full blown MTA like exim to something like
>> > ssmtp or dma¹ would be a great idea.
>> Ah, but then we should remove the "Mail server" option from d-i, which
>> is almost useless.
> No.  We can keep it, it just doesn't need to be selected by default.

Currently if I select only OpenSSH server and basic system tools in
expert mode, Exim gets installed, too.

> However, we really should switch the mail server option to something that
> would be suitable for mail servers (i.e. something that doesn't play stupid
> games with standards), such as postfix.  I've advocated keeping the
> status-quo in the past, but I was not aware of the exim4 brokenness.
> I agree that installing "mda" by default on desktop installs would be
> useful.  However IME, server installs are much better served by installing
> postfix, even when they're not MTAs, let alone when they are MTAs...

I don't think installing mail servers for desktop installation can be
_that_ useful, not all Debian users are power users who read system
email and mutt (or likewise).

Aron Xu

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