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[OT] NM vs. wicd (was: Re: On init in Debian)

On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 10:20:50 +0200, Mike Hommey <mh@glandium.org> wrote:
> I could file bugs, but I have so many problems that I'm better off
> switching to NM.

Well, that's constructive -- well done.

I think you'll find that there are two groups of users (at least), one
that is relatively happy with the assumptions made by the NM developers,
another who are driven immediately insane by how broken those
assumptions are.

I'm in the latter camp, so I ran screaming from NM to wicd, and have
been fairly happy ever since, but then I don't use gnome, I do use
interesting bridging and VPN setups, and I fairly often have wired and
wireless connections running at the same time, so I shouldn't really
expect NM to be a good fit for me, and I don't.

Wicd does have rough edges, but they make some sort of sense to me,
whereas NM just fights with what I wanted to happen.

I'd only use either to make flipping between wireless networks something
where I don't need to keep the comandline incantations in my head
anyway, so the last thing I need is NM noticing that I've plugged or
unplugged an ethernet cable, and doing something about it.

Clearly, other people want to be able to plug an ethernet cable in and
have it Just Work.

It seems to me that most of the people complaining about either of these
are actually complaining about their own preferences, and how they are
not served as well by one tool than another.

This has sod all to do with init variants.

Cheers, Phil.
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