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Re: Unofficial repositories on 'debian' domains

On 12-03-06 at 11:33am, Russell Coker wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Mar 2012, Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> wrote:
> > > In other words, if not for Christian Marillat's work, your 
> > > customer would either be unable to do this on Debian, or, assuming 
> > > enough technical knowledge, have to beat upstream packages into 
> > > working.
> > 
> > ...or use another source which plays nicer with Debian, e.g. 
> > backports.debian.org.
> I don't believe that backports.debian.org attempts to solve any of the 
> problems that debian-multimedia solves.  In the past I've used 
> Christian's packages for playing video files produced by a mobile 
> phone with file extension .3gp and for writing mp4 files.  At the time 
> the official Debian packages didn't support such things.  I haven't 
> recently tried either of those operations on systems without 
> Christian's packages installed so I don't know if things have changed.

That's exactly my point: Things have changed - believe it or not. :-)

> I have not experienced any serious problems with Christian's 
> repository in terms of upgrading systems either.
> I'm glad that Christian does this, I know some people who would be 
> buying Windows systems if I didn't make their Linux systems do things 
> that Christian's packages support but which aren't supported by 
> official packages.

I am also glad for what Christian have done.  I have have good use of 
some of his packages.  But they do cause real problems, and I believe 
they are (with libdvdcss2 as a possible exception) no longer the best 
option as a) unstable has improved radically, and b) I guess the 
improved packages are available at backports.debian.org.

I don't actually know for sure if they are available: Personally I only 
use unofficial packages that I compile myself - be it backported from 
Debian testing or unstable or sideports from d-m.o or other sources.

> I'm also glad that the people responsible for such decisions in Debian 
> have decided to take a hard line against patent infringing software - 
> last time I checked the Fedora people weren't as stringent which is a 
> bad thing IMHO.  I think it's good to encourage people to use the more 
> free software even if they are in a jurisdiction that doesn't support 
> software patents and then give them an option if they really want to 
> do otherwise.

Debian now has a *changed* hard line against patent infringing software 
- resulting in more codecs supported in official Debian packages.

 - Jonas

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