Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version
2012/2/27 Samuel Thibault <sthibault@debian.org>:
> Matthias Klumpp, le Mon 27 Feb 2012 17:45:14 +0100, a écrit :
>> Maybe interesting to read in this upstart vs. systemd vs. sysvinit
>> discussion is the comparison of these three init systems:
>> http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/why.html
>> Of course, Lennart Poettering did this, but the points mentioned are
>> valid. (Although the list is a bit outdated, at least on upstart's
>> side)
>
> What is Lennart's point? That it does everything that are
> traditionnally done in other packages? I don't see what point that
> makes. Just an instance: "Console and keyboard setup". Great, yet
> another set of keymaps?
No, "console and keyboard __setup__", he's not establishing another
keymap set, it's just the setup part.
And systemd is very modular, you can always split out parts you don't like.
I recently tried systemd on my machine, just to see how it works, and
I am really excited about it now :) System boot speed is *much* better
now, defining new services is absolutely trivial and working with
systemd just feels right(tm), at least to me. To be honest, I didn't
manage to get everything working, but I am not an init-system expert
and haven't tried to dig deeper there.
I also use upstart on my Kubuntu machine (well, it was default,
so...), but at time I very much prefer systemd. Of course, that's my
very own, personal opinion.
And, as Lennart already stated:
"I am listening. I mean, besides the really basic design decisions
Upstart has nothing that systemd hasn't. The reason for that among
other things is that I actually looked at Upstart, and added to
systemd everything I liked about it. But hey, I'd be really happy to
see Scott post a similar blog story, so that we can see the other side
of the medal."
I would really like to see that comparison from upstart's side too! :)
Regards,
Matthias Klumpp
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