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Re: A few observations about systemd

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On 18/07/11 13:15, Gergely Nagy wrote:
> Federico Di Gregorio <fog@debian.org> writes:
>> > On 18/07/11 12:13, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>>> >> Jon Dowland, le Mon 18 Jul 2011 10:35:30 +0100, a écrit :
>>>> >>> 1. carry portability patches against systemd locally
>>>> >>> 2. support multiple init systems
>>>> >>> 3. drop kfreebsd (and HURD and others)
>>> >> 
>>> >> 3 basically means dropping "Universal" from Debian, and replace it with
>>> >> "Linux".
>> >
>> > Wasn't "universal" as in "runs everywhere" (i.e., on a lot of archs) vs
>> > as "runs everything" (when a Debian GNU/WinNT?).
> The main issue I have with dropping kFreeBSD & HURD would be (apart from
> losing two platforms I use - even if for fun only; I don't want to use a
> distribution that doesn't allow me to have as much fun as I do now) that
> it leads down the path of dropping whatever a vocal upstream decides to
> don't care about.

I'd never advocate dropping kernels or archs. Our social contract binds
us to provider our *users* the best possible OS. If systemd makes Debian
GNU/Linux better (and here I am supposing the vast majority of Debian
users are Linux users) then the right thing to do is to use it.

What about other kernels? What about embedded systems? That depends on
the developers involved. Probably using a different init or porting
systemd is a fine solution, depending on the amount of work required.

FreeBSD, HURD and Linux have different targets, a different user base
and a different developer base. Trying to create a completely uniform
Debian out of them is, IMO; doomed to fail. We don't want three
sub-optimal, perfectly identical operating systems. We want the three
best operating systems (maybe a little bit different in functionality)
we can give to our users. Right?


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