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Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

Hi Andreas,

On Sat, 30 Apr 2011, Andreas Barth wrote:
> Actually, it worked quite well for both volatile and backports to
> start as a non-official service. As well as building packages in
> non-free. And lots of other stuff which was implemented.
> Why shouldn't it work for rolling.d.n?

1/ The current discussion is mainly about not freezing testing. For the
wheezy freeze I could setup rolling.debian.net with a britney migrating
stuff from unstable. And I could ask developers to upload new upstream
versions to unstable.

But then all the concerns that you raised would still be applicable and
the fact that it's done in a .net service doesn't protect the release team
from the bad consequences.

2/ The discussion is also about better supporting testing using t-p-u more
extensively to bring important fixes (or important new upstream versions)
that are blocked in unstable. It would be unreasonable to ask Debian
developers to support testing and rolling.debian.net in parallel.

3/ rolling.debian.net would only be interesting to evaluate the few
suggestions I made concerning the migration rules that we use (and which I
explicitly said that they should not be considered in the current
discussion… but that never works :)). But then I can run a britney and
collect statistics without setting up rolling.debian.net for public

For all those reasons, I believe the only sane way to go forward is to
discuss with the release team to identify what needs to happen so that
not freezing testing can become a serious possibility.

To better structure the discussion, and make incremental progress, Sean
and me have decided to draft a DEP on this topic.

Raphaël Hertzog ◈ Debian Developer

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