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Re: Why is help so hard to find?

On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 10:48:54AM +0000, Neil Williams wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 01:09:58 -0800
> Mike Bird <mgb-debian@yosemite.net> wrote:
> > On Sat January 15 2011 00:51:42 Neil Williams wrote:
> > > Mike, you missed the sarcasm completely and just went on another
> > > rant about two (unrelated) bugs which affect you directly. Guess
> > > what
> > > - I don't give two flying figs about those two specific issues
> > > because they don't affect me. I care about the underlying problem.
> > 
> > We ran into those bugs while testing Squeeze and have for the most
> > part worked around them.  We now know never to enable insserv.  We
> > may even add some hacks to our systems to prevent sysv-rc from nagging
> > us.  And we know to remove KDE 4 and install Trinity.
> It's not about specifics, I'm trying to work on the underlying problem.
> > They are not so much programming
> > bugs as process bugs - abuses of the packaging system to force or
> > trick people into switching to unwanted and undesirable software.
> If the alternative software was maintained within Debian by an active
> team then maybe the switch could be a choice. If nobody steps up to do
> it, that choice is not available.
> Lacking endless resources, Debian has to go with what people actually
> doing the work want to work on.
> If you want something different, work with people in Debian to provide
> it but you do have to work with people with differing expertise.
> Every great idea is worthless without someone to do the work.

Dear Neil,

I just wanted to say thanks for your considered and thoughtful reply.
I agreed with everything you said, and really appreciated you taking
the time to write it.


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