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Re: problems with the concept of unstable -> testing

On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:58:52 +0000
Noah Slater <nslater@tumbolia.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 09:53:58PM +0000, Neil Williams wrote:
> > I get criticised for being rude or direct - well here's the news: I
> > don't care if people think I'm rude, deal with it. At least I do
> > what I can to fix stuff, I apologise when I do make mistakes and I
> > do not recommend something I have not done myself. Would that more
> > "contributors" were as active.
> I think you should care about upsetting people, and so should others.

Well, that's your viewpoint - mine is different. I care about getting
things done and helping people who are motivated, not those who only
ever complain and obstruct wider development.

> When you work for an organisation like Debian,

work? We're all volunteers and we have to motivate ourselves. People
like Thomas motivate me to continue contributing.

> the community is the
> most valuable asset it has going for it. Rude and abrasive characters
> who contribute a lot of code, but who upset the community, waste time
> by drawing fire or starting flame wars, or scare away new
> contributers do not deserve to be excused for such behaviour.

There has to be some support for those who come under fire despite
being active contributors. If the community is left with inactive and
inoffensive "members" who make no positive contributions, Debian itself
will dissolve from the inside. Debian exists because things get done -


Neil Williams

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