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Re: Re: Include on first iso: m-a, build essential, kernel headers

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 09:53:24PM +0200, richs wrote:
I think that including headers, m-a and build essential would be a good move for the developers. Other distros have out-of-the-box non-free and proprietary apps/drivers/codecs, I would just like to see Debian offer a complete base on that first iso. At least offering the means to completely setup Debian form the get-go.

Non-free (and contrib) packages are not part of Debian and are therefore
not shipped on Debian CDs or DVDs.  I understand your frustration with
not being able to use your wireless card out of the box; I have the same
problem, since my card (iwl3945) requires non-free firmware.  However,
the Social Contract states very clearly that only Free Software can be
part of Debian.

Even if the packages you request were available on the first CD, you
still don't have the drivers that you would need to compile, since those
are in non-free or contrib and thus aren't on the CDs.  Your best
chances of getting a working system out of the box are if Free drivers
without firmware are included into the kernel.  If this is a serious
concern, I would recommend carefully selecting the hardware you buy for
optimal compatibility.

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