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Re: RFH: Multiarch capable toolchain as release goal

On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 09:06:15PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
> Robert Millan <rmh@aybabtu.com> writes:
> > On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 05:28:23PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> >> > I bet that multiarch gets included into Ubuntu about two weeks after
> >> > we released lenny without multiarch.
> >> 
> >> That's indeed the way the maintainer seems to work, and he keeps sitting
> >> on way too many packages, stopping progress in Debian. Thanks for the fish.
> >> 
> >> Multiarch should indeed go into Lenny, please consider an exception for it.
> >
> > Before you bring this to the tech ctte and such, don't you need a
> > refusal by the maintainer?  I mean, AFAIK on this issue the only
> > response has been silence.  And the usual way to deal with silence
> > is to interpret it as lack of time rather than refusal (and
> > accordingly send a polite offer to NMU).
> It is normally polite to ask.  However, there are (as I'm sure we are
> all aware) a number of developers who don't communicate with the rest
> of the project *at all*, bar the occasional announcement.  Trying to
> discuss or collaborate with these few is nigh on impossible--and I
> have in some cases been trying for several years, and have yet to get
> even *one* reply to my mail and patches!  It's like chucking them into
> a black hole!
> If you do want to wait for permission/refusal, you might find you
> never get a reply and end up waiting forever.  So, why not wait long
> enough for a reply, say a fortnight, and then go ahead and hijack it
> after that if you have no response (and tell them in the mail that
> this is what you will do).
> Regards,
> Roger
Is there a guideline or policy for such hard-to-reach Developers with
regard to hi-jacking or NMU?

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