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Re: What CDs and DVDs should we produce for lenny?

On Wednesday 19 March 2008, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> Anthony Towns dijo [Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 03:39:05PM +1000]:
> > (...)
> > and the real question is where you say "if you really want the 23rd CD
> > for mipsel, you're probably smart/dedicated enough to use jigdo".
> I completely agree with this. I don't think we must carry every CD for
> every arch forever!
> BTW... 30 CDs are too many CDs. Just too fucking many. We could also
> cut down on them - i.e. produce only the first 8 CDs per arch, and
> have the rest only as DVDs. Yes, many people still do not have DVD
> drives handy, but then again, 8 CDs + network access + a bit of
> patience for the most obscure bits of software should be enough for
> anybody...

that assumes network access, which might be a reasonable assumption in the 
West, but that's not true everywhere (e.g. rural parts of India, Cuba, or 
most of Africa). In which case ordering a CD-set is way more practical 
(these also tend to be the places where they have older second hand pc's 
without a DVD-drive)

> > The other thing we /could/ do is encourage people who've done
> > successful Debian installs to help contribute by participating in a
> > torrent after the fact -- you could do all sorts of things like have a
> > FUSE filesystem that takes a (partial) mirror and a jigdo file and lets
> > you see fake iso files, which you then seed via bittorrent, eg. You
> > could automate that, so it's just a question like the popcon one: "Do
> > you wish to participate as a torrent seed for other people installing
> > Debian? Yes [No]"
> Ugh. Do you really want ISPs all over the world to start associating
> Debian with evil communist pirate P2P filesharers?

er, you do realise torrent is used for way more then that right?
(for example there's now a scandinavian telivision station that's starting 
to distribute shows through bittorrent, we also already have debtorrent)
Cheers, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)

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