Re: Debian's Linux kernel continues to regress on freedom

[Jeremiah Foster <jeremiah@jeremiahfoster.com>]

On Sep 13, 2007, at 11:33 AM, Karl Goetz wrote:

> On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 20:45 +0200, Roland Mas wrote:
> > John Kelly, 2007-09-12 18:33:12 +0000 :
> >
> > > Again, if Debian's highly esteemed social contract is for the
> > > benefit of users, then why not let users vote?
> >
> > We do, actually.  Those users who do show interest in influencing the
> > course of Debian by concrete actions rather than by mailing-list
> > trolling are entitled to vote.  Others aren't.
>
> What counts as concrete actions?

Here are some: packaging, documenting, filing bugs, fixing bugs.
> >   How do we know the difference?  The criterion is known as the NM
> > process.  It's open to all.
>
> NM.
> Does this mean only packaging counts as "concrete actions"?
>
> If packaging is the only 'concrete action' accepted, the idea that  
> users
> get a say *is* a joke.
>
> karl.

So fixing a bug is a joke? No, of course not. There are so many ways  
to have a say in debian and change the code in debian directly that  
it renders your statement a non-sequitur.

	Jeremiah