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Re: adding desktop files to misc packages



On Sat, 2007-07-28 at 04:47 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 19:22:11 +0200, Frank Küster <frank@debian.org> said: 
> 
> > Josselin Mouette <joss@debian.org> wrote:
> >> As long as it is not shown, it doesn't matter, so I guess we can
> >> agree on this matter.
> 
> > No, not at all.  I have not yet seen a convincing argument for hiding
> > menu entries.  The only ones were "less is more", which is to vague to
> > get one much further, and "we need to hide stuff like python", which
> > is plain wrong IMHO because I think python shouldn't have a menu entry
> > at all.
> 
>         Actually, microsoft (which seems to be what GNOME folk are
>  trying ever so  hard to emulate) came up with a decent solution -- they
>  added shaded areas to menus to indicate that something is hidden from
>  the user, and the user can just hover over the are to open up the
>  hidden entries.
<snip>

That's actually terrible for usability.  First, any UI feature that
involves hovering is hostile both to novices, because it's effectively
hidden, and to experienced users, because they know where they're going
and don't want to wait.  Second, users cannot learn where menu entries
are if they keep moving around.

Windows XP and later versions don't hide anything in the Programs
sub-menu but they try to duplicate the most commonly used programs
directly on the Start menu, with the option of explicitly "pinning" them
in place.  This works pretty well, though there are some difficulties in
working out which are most commonly used (see the series of articles
beginning with
<http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2007/06/11/3215739.aspx>).

Ben.

-- 
Ben Hutchings
Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain. - Lily Tomlin

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