Re: adding desktop files to misc packages
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 11:38:59AM +0200, Florent Rougon <f.rougon@free.fr> wrote:
> SCNR...
>
> Frank Küster <frank@debian.org> wrote:
>
> Frank> That turns out not to be the case. If I use an app frequently, then it
> Frank> goes on the toolbar. The menu is for finding infrequently used apps. For
> Frank> a lot of users, browsing the menu is how they find out what's available.
>
> Mike> IIRC, gnome is going to switch to gnome-main-menu. There is a reason for
> Mike> this.
>
> [...]
>
> Frank> I haven't watched the whole video (it being boring to me), but from the
> Frank> reading I still don't understand which of my statements you want to
> Frank> contradict, let alone why.
>
> Seems very clear to me: it has been almost a decade now since the GNOME
> project tries hard to get rid of every feature that makes their software
> more usable (I'm speaking here about real usability, not about
> eye-candy).
>
> Witness:
> - usable completion in the File Open dialog -> gone
> - customizable keyboard shortcuts in apps[1] -> gone
Both are due to gtk, not gnome.
> And now, a usable menu listing available applications is going to be
> replaced by a "thing" where you have to find your casually-used app in a
> 300-entries unstructered list after clicking on "More applications..."
> (exactly as the "Open With..." in MS Windows works, no wonder where they
> got the idea).
>
> So, yes, there *is* a reason GNOME is going to switch to
> gnome-main-menu: the previous menu still had a little remainder of
> (real) usability.
>
>
> [1] No, don't tell me that it is a simple matter of adding
> "gtk-can-change-accels=1" to ~/.gtkrc-2.0. This simply *does*
> *not* *work*. For instance, even with this, you have to go hunt
> for the specific option in Gimp's Preferences menu before you can
> at last add your own keyboard shortcuts. Ugh.
Gimp is not a gnome application.
Mike
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