Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?
Em Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:23:21 +0100
Steve Kemp <skx@debian.org> escreveu:
> > Why does Ubuntu have to have
> > all the great ideas for their users? One example: They have a
> > pop up telling you updates are ready. Now maybe you now have this
> > feature,
>
> Debian does have this feature. (Package 'update-notifier'.)
>
> I don't know offhand whether "they" had it first or "we" had it
> first, and I don't think it matters terribly much. Some packages
> both distributions have in common (many!) and some start in one
> and get shared to the other later.
They had it first and we worked together to 'utnubu' it into Debian, by
patching the underlying software (update-manager) to work with any
distribution, feature which has been kept in their last release.
My opinion about the whole issue:
I believe Debian has been and still is very innovative; then again,
Ubuntu had a very solid and mature base, so they could think about
stuff to put *above* that. I would not say the innovation they brought
is bigger than Debian's; they just focused their resources in a
different set of problems, which were only solvable, in some cases,
because of the good base Debianites have created so far (and in which we
put quite a bit effort simply for maintainance).
In the end of the day, it is still being a good thing for both, I
believe, as long as utnubu keeps happening as fast as ubuntunization of
Debian stuff. I enjoy having update-{manager,notifier}, even though I
use aptitude myself, it means my mother has a simpler way of updating
her Debian system at home. =)
See you,
--
Gustavo Noronha Silva <kov@debian.org>
http://people.debian.org/~kov/
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