Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys
On 27 May 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane verbalised:
> On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 05:19:21PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> On 27 May 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane spake thusly:
>>> On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 02:04:31PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>>>> On 27 May 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane stated:
>>>>> The US constitution applies only to USA citizens, right?
> That's precisely the issue. The standards of "reasonable" are
> different for minors than they are for 'normal' people.
Err, how does this have any bearing on "The US constitution
applies only to USA citizens"? Seems to me that you are wafflking
around, having found no real grounds for your initial inflammatory
Also, you might come from a place where four year old citizens
are allowed to vote, drive, and join the army, but I am happy that
in my country the government does see age as a factor in determining
rights and duties. This is way off topic, though.
>> Residency and voting are the two things that are indeed restricted
>> to citizens, and rightly so. ALl this case did was to talk about
>> whether an alien unlawfully in this country does not have a
>> constitutional right to continue to remain in the country when the
>> authorities have, according to the law, have commenced proceedings,
>> adjudicated cases, and are executing removal orders.
> What it says is that he/she cannot argue that the removal
> proceedings are being selectively enforced against him/her because
> of his/her opinions and speech, thereby nullifying these rights for
> this class of people.
No, it means that such an appeal has to be mounted post
deportation proceedings. The fact that the person was here illegally
was not in question; selectively deporting only some illegals is an
issue. Well, if you are here illegally, you should expect to be
deported -- you have no rights to stay here at all.
The fact that you have some to the attention of authorities ,
and thus are facing deportation, but others who have not yet been
caught are not being deported have no bearing on this. "Yes, I
committed a crime, but so did those others" is not really much of a
We're all in this alone. Lily Tomlin
Manoj Srivastava <email@example.com> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/>
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