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Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys



On 27 May 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane stated:

> On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 07:03:27PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
>> On Friday 26 May 2006 13:40, Joe Smith wrote:
>
>>> Apparently the US makes it very clear that US Citizens are not to
>>> be pestered at customs "OR ELSE".
>
>> If only that were true.  The Americans give me hell.
>
> Joe probably meant "pestered by non-USA customs".
>
>> Canada practically waves me through.  Last time I drove back to
>> Oregon, US customs decided that it was appropriate to violate the
>> rights the US constitution claims I have
>
> The US constitution applies only to USA citizens, right?

        Wrong

> You say you are not US-ian, only Oregonian. So doesn't apply to
> youN? >:-)

        Wrong again.


> (The fact that most of the constitution is not applied to foreign
> national is more a shame than something to be proud of for
> USA-ians.)

        An incorrect conclusion reached from false premises.

        The constitution mostly deals with the enumeration and the
 limits of the pwoers of the various branches of the government.
 Voting is indeed restricted to citizens, but nothing else really says
 "citizen" in the text. 

        The bill of rights apply to people (like, Amendment III
 applies to foreign owners of property as well), not just citizens.

        I find your assumption of shameful conduct without even an
 iota of research disturbing, and it leads more to the value one
 should place in statements made by you in the future than anything
 else. 

        manoj
-- 
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Manoj Srivastava   <srivasta@debian.org>  <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/>
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