Re: Sun Java available from non-free
- To: Wouter Verhelst <wouter@debian.org>
- Cc: Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@debian.org>, Romain Beauxis <toots@rastageeks.org>, Francesco Poli <frx@firenze.linux.it>, debian-legal@lists.debian.org, debian-devel@lists.debian.org, Michael Meskes <meskes@debian.org>
- Subject: Re: Sun Java available from non-free
- From: Michael Meskes <meskes@debian.org>
- Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 14:43:31 +0200
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On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 01:35:33PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> The difference would be that while you would act against the original
> author's wishes if you were to put warez on your server, the same isn't
> true about Sun Java. In fact, Sun explicitely asked us to please
> distribute their software. I'd say that accounts to something, and that
> a Judge who feels different isn't worth his job.
I already admitted that the example doesn't cut it. But again most
discussion is about the "allowance to distribute". I don't see a problem
with this. But I see a problem with the idemnify clause. That's why I
tried this example because it doesn't help if you stop distributing java
if you are already in a bind to idemnify Sun.
> Try as I might, and considering how lawyers and judges are human beings
> and not automatons, I can't see any realistic scenario in which we could
> be sued and lose a case in relation to this license. Do you?
Yes, I do, but not for distributing it.
Michael
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