Re: C++ ABI change for etch -- freeze unstable for all C++ libs with changed or new sonames
On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 10:37:08PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le dimanche 05 juin 2005 à 20:40 +0200, Wouter Verhelst a écrit :
> > On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 06:50:57PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > > The problem is that the decisions are always taken for the Ubuntu
> > > distribution first.
> > There's two reasons why this could be happening:
> > * There's a master plan over at Canonical to try and take over Debian.
> > * For every step someone tries to make in Debian, a two-month long flame
> > has to happen on this very list. As a result, nobody is motivated to
> > do /anything/, because nobody likes to be flamed.
> > Pick your bets.
> And you're the one to tell I'm spreading FUD?
Where did I say "FUD"?
> Real improvement comes from actual work on packages, not from discussion
> here. The only cases where improvement can't be brought are when
> adequate people cannot do the work for political reasons.
> You don't *have* to discuss all matters on this list. I believe it is
> here to give advice, not to make decisions. Decisions are taken by
> maintainers - or by the technical committee.
Indeed. So what is your quarrel with Ubuntu? If decisions are made by
maintainers rather than this list, they are also made by maintainers
rather than Canonical employees.
The amount of time between slipping on the peel and landing on the
pavement is precisely one bananosecond