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Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 10:44:33AM -0700, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 10:17:08AM -0500, Bill Allombert wrote:
> > As far as popularity-contest is involved, Ubuntu users are not Debian
> > users since they cannot report to popcon.debian.org because the 
> > popularity-contest package provided by Ubuntu report to popcon.ubuntu.com,
> Do you see this, in itself, as a problem?  It seemed obvious to me that it
> would be inappropriate for Ubuntu systems to submit their data to the same
> repository as Debian users, since the data would be heavily skewed by our
> default package selections, and difficult to filter.

I don't see it as a problem, but just as a hint that Ubuntu is a fork.
But there nothing wrong with forking Debian.

You have a point, though, that the Ubuntu package selection might skew the
popcon results. If the sole purpose of popcon is to generate a ranking for
generating Debian CD-ROM, then Ubuntu users are unlikely use Debian
CD-ROM, so their preference is not relevant.

However if the purpose is to know if a package is useful to the
community (for a QA purpose, etc.), then whether the package is used
on Ubuntu, Knoppix, etc. or on regular Debian is not very important.

> reportbug submits to Ubuntu, instead of Debian, for similar reasons.
> > Basically we have two packages that share the same name but include
> > unrelated softwares.
> They are different, but certainly they are closely related, no?

Not really. The popularity-contest script is the same, but the client
and server scripts are quite different, because Ubuntu use http instead
of sendmail to report and for some reason the Ubuntu patch remove the
client-side sendmail support.

Bill. <ballombe@debian.org>

Imagine a large red swirl here. 

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