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Re: mplayer 1.0pre6a-4 for i386 and PowerPC and sparc



On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 02:30:03PM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 11:02:40PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> 
> > Ok, so why doesn't mplayer get's accepted in debian now ? 
> 
> I have no idea, nor is it my responsibility to know.  I can only say that
> your claims so far are all either extremely implausible, or demonstrably
> false.

Well, there are two issues here, one is why mplayer is not in debian.
Supposedly it was because the legal situation was not clear and that made it
dangerous and maybe illegal for us to distribute it. I wonder why ubuntu does
not have this problem (even it if is in universe/multiverse), and if maybe
this means the problems got solved and it could be included in debian now, or
maybe because ubuntu just didn't care about the legal dubious situation.

The second issue is that there is some kind of distrust of ubuntu that is
probably the lack of clarity in your relationship with debian. I hear you
stood up in debconf'04 and announced your intentions, but nothing about it got
posted to the more wide-traffic debian lists, and not everyone went to
debconf'04. Also, i must admit that altough i am interested in the technical
aspects of ubuntu, i am personally a bit unconfortable about it, as there is
no clarity of what is behind it, what the business model of ubuntu is, what is
exact relationship to debian is (like you promised to do the right thing and
give back to debian, but on the other hand patches from ubuntu employes cannot
be attached directly to bug report, but must be links to the ubuntu web site,
which makes them less useful), and the question about if ubuntu will
canibalize debian in the long run.

I don't think all this is really a problem, but there is clearly am
uncertainly that you would gain in clarifying. You and everyone involved will
only benefit from this.

Friendly,

Sven Luther



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