Re: apply to NM? ha!
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 12:26:13AM +0000, Helen Faulkner wrote:
> Based on comments made to me by a number of women who are interested in
> contributing more to Debian, the level of agressiveness on some of the
> mailing lists and IRC channels is a problem. It is preventing people
> (women and men, no doubt) from getting involved, because they don't want
> to have to deal with that behaviour, should it be directed towards them.
> I often find myself explaining to people how they can avoid attracting
> the attention of those who are likely to be unpleasant to deal with, and
> also repeatedly emphasising the fact that, despite some appearances,
> there really are many very pleasant and supportive people involved in
> Debian. It's a pity that such explanations are actually required.
Sadly, those helpful people usually don't make up the reputation of Debian
in public. The aggressive DDs do this, IMHO.
> I do not believe that being thick-skinned enough to cope with people who
> are very agressive or insulting should be a requirement for involvement
> in Debian. Sadly, it seems to me that this is effectively the case.
> Shouldn't we be more interested in someone's technical skills, and their
> ability to work well with others?
I think, the problem is not with thin-skinned people but with those
thick-skinned one, that don't care about the thinner-skinned people. The
argument of being thick-skinned is IMHO just a bad excuse to be more
aggressive to others. It's just too simple to state that the other person is
too thin-skinned when others being aggressive to them.
As a result, people start to believe they have to get aggressive to others
in order to get heared. I made that experience myself.
Wasn't there a thread of being more polite lately?
I wish more women would join Debian and the lists. My experience is that
usually there's not that much aggressiveness when there are women around.
Please note that year 2004 has come to an end and
the year 2005 is now - even in my mail address!