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Re: Ignoring the truth or Hiding problems?

On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 03:56:30AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> writes:

> > On Sat, Dec 18, 2004 at 06:13:11PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> >> Clint Adams <schizo@debian.org> writes:

> >> >> Could you please stay with the facts instead playing word games by citing
> >> >> different things in a manner that fits best your word play?
> >> >> Yet I've not seen any real answer to the original posters problem. Just bad
> >> >> excuses as yours.

> >> > You talk about non-responsiveness from the mipsel buildd admin, and then
> >> > you conclude that James is the root of the problem.  How does that
> >> > follow?

> >> Does Ryan even get the mail? Doesn't James control where the mail goes
> >> to?

> > WTF, you're accusing James of keeping Ryan from getting emails about buildd
> > problems?  How paranoid is *that*?

> Truefully I can't say what happens to the mails. Since noone seems to
> reply to any of them they could accidentally end up in /dev/null just
> as any other place. I don't think it is paranoid to consider a faulty
> mail routing when none of the mails are knwon to have arrived.

> I didn't and don't accuse James of willfully keeping anyone from
> getting the mails but accidents do happen.

> If someone got a reply to his mail then speak up so we know it worked
> at least at some point.

I've gotten replies from various buildd maintainers on occasion in reply to
requeue requests, etc.  The feedback is nice to have when it happens and I
appreciate their effort in replying, but I'm not stuck on it so log as the
work gets done.  FWIW, the s390 buildd admin (Gerhard Tonn is the official
contact @buildd.debian.org) tends to be among the quickest to address
requeue issues in my experience, but I don't think he's ever acked my
emails about these -- there's definitely no correlation between email
acknowledgements and fixed packages.

Steve Langasek
postmodern programmer

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