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Re: Linux Core Consortium

On Fri, Dec 10, 2004 at 01:42:57PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> Adrian von Bidder dijo [Fri, Dec 10, 2004 at 04:38:10PM +0100]:
> > > we don't exactly have a strong history of being able to pull off
> > > timely releases
> > 
> > Did Debian even try?
> > 
> > I didn't follow the woody release too closely, being a Debian newbie at the 
> > time, so I don't know.  But - this was my impression - from the start, 
> > sarge was prepared with the 'we release when we're ready' idea, which makes 
> > everybody feel that they have more than enough time.
> Yes, it did. Debian has long tried to shorten the release cycles,
> without any success. That's the reason why Testing was introduced
> (after Slink, IIRC). I got involved in Debian close to the Woody
> release. We were quite optimist that Sarge would release in ~1 year

Who was? Everybody with any sense knew that it wasn't going to happen.

> There are many proposals to make Etch and future releases come out
> sooner, please check them at
> http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?ReleaseProposals

Every single one of these falls into one of these four groups:

(a) Give up (and maybe do something else entirely, like making
    unstable releases)

(b) Split Debian into pieces, which we haven't tried before but we
    know won't make the pieces any easier to release (and what's the
    use of releasing a 'core' chunk early before there are any
    applications to run on it?)

(c) Stuff that we've tried before and abandoned (like freezing

(d) Stuff that isn't related to making releases faster

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