also sprach Matthew Garrett <mgarrett@chiark.greenend.org.uk> [2004.10.05.0015 +0200]: > > We can push neither of them into Debian via security.d.o. No, > > sorry, this is not the way stable works. > > /Should/ it be the way stable works? We have the ability to change > that. No. It's "stable". It's one of the major features of Debian that we do not pull in dependencies but rather backport the fixes. People have come to rely on it. I consider volatile software a whole new class which cannot fit in with the regular "never touch a running system" paradigm because it needs to be cutting edge. Thus, I would consider it perfectly sensible for Debian to have a new archive, e.g. volatile.debian.org, which plays nice with the current stable, but which has turnaround times of a couple of days at max. > Providing that we only do it for the set of software that would > otherwise be entirely useless by the time we make a new release, > I don't see that it compromises any existing principles. The same reason why we do not merge s.d.o into stable but distribute it separately. Give people the choice! > Debian stable is about providing a stable platform that people can > build upon. It's about providing something that can be trusted to > work, rather than one where upgrades break things. It's not about > slavish adherance to the idea that we should never change any of > it. I completely agree. Thank you for stating it. I think this should be something to have in the back of our heads in other parts of Debian too. > If you can find one real person who believes that it would be > better to either have no virus checker or one that will be > entirely useless after 4 weeks than it would be to have updates > that might actually provide new functionality, I'll be impressed. I just asked my 16 months old god child and she replied "ja ja ja" and smiled. Now if you consider her not a real person, I'll come after you! -- Please do not CC me when replying to lists; I read them! .''`. martin f. krafft <madduck@debian.org> : :' : proud Debian developer, admin, and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system Invalid/expired PGP subkeys? Use subkeys.pgp.net as keyserver!
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