On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 01:35:09PM +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > * Ben Burton <bab@debian.org> [040804 02:09]: > > Of course I maintain the original point, which is that using two > > different roles for "they" is no more absurd than using two different > > roles for "he". > That might be true. Both are stupid viewed from the right direction. > But "he" already has the meaning[1], while they would form an addition > to the language. When we extend language, there is no reason to > implement a proper solution like a totally new word. no use to overload > already existing words and cause confusion. > Btw: while we are at the topic. Are things like "developer" or "leader" > gender neutral phrases in English or does one need things like in > German? ("devleoperess" and "leaderess" sound funny, so I hope we > don't have this problem. Or only for the German translations...) Although I suspect the original set of nouns built from verbs which refer to people who do those verbs traditionally takes -or/-er for masculine and -ress for the feminine, new words are generally using -or/-er but are not gender-specified. If I'm thinking clearly, that means that the non-gender-specific -or/-er construction is the rule and that the -or/-er/-ress gender distinction is now historical and non-productive. Although I can imagine my ex's face when I call her an accountress. ^_^ > [1]: As much as I dislike this discrimation of males by denying a > pronoun only refering to them. Well, as suggested earlier, 'she' is similarly (but distinctly) overloaded too. So it's really just inanimate objects that get a pronoun all to themselves, unless you choose to apply it to neuter animate antecedants. I don't, I usually attempt to discover a personal preference in any controversial cases before using either personal pronoun. 'It' is so depersonifying. >_< -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Paul "TBBle" Hampson, MCSE 7th year CompSci/Asian Studies student, ANU The Boss, Bubblesworth Pty Ltd (ABN: 51 095 284 361) Paul.Hampson@Anu.edu.au "No survivors? Then where do the stories come from I wonder?" -- Capt. Jack Sparrow, "Pirates of the Caribbean" This email is licensed to the recipient for non-commercial use, duplication and distribution. -----------------------------------------------------------
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