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Re: the SPF effects on mail SENT TO @d.o



On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 08:06:25PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Isaac To <kkto@csis.hku.hk> writes:
> 
> > Unluckily, the thread started by John is not a "thread gone mad", or at
> > least I don't think it is.  The underlying views can be summarized as
> > one of
> 
> >   a. SPF is a bloodily stupid idea that adds to user inconvenience without
> >      much gain to the net as whole.  So to prevent SPF from gaining grounds,
> >      Debian should actively not implement anything to make sure mails from
> >      SPF enabled sites to actually get delivered.  Then users of SPF will
> >      one day understand how stupid SPF actually is.
> 
> >   b. SPF is a good idea, and Debian should support it even when very few
> >      others are using SPF.  So it really should implement SRS to make sure
> >      sites with SPF enabled, and users with who filter mails based on SPF
> >      rules, will be served nicely.  Debian should itself publish SPF records
> >      as well.
> 
> >   c. We don't know whether SPF is a good idea, and if enough people do use
> >      it, we should not bar them from access to the Debian list.  So even if
> >      Debian might not implement SPF (i.e., not publish a SPF record in the
> >      Debian DNS server), it should implement at least SRS to make sure other
> >      users of SPF is served nicely.
> 
> I think there's a fourth one:
> 
>   d. It's not clear whether SPF will actually help anything, and some
>      work is required to implement SRS and deal with forwarding back any
>      bounces, not to mention possibly breaking user assumptions about
>      envelope senders (for example SRS will turn unresolvable envelope
>      senders that could be rejected as spam into resolvable envelope
>      senders unless you take them apart again).  So a wait and see
>      approach may be indicated before actually taking time to do the work.

 e. SPF is a good idea, but it is not appropriate for Debian to
    publish SPF records. We should largely ignore it.

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