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Re: Social Contract GR's Affect on sarge

On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 11:39:31PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> > 	What ongoing talks? The ones that have produced absolutely no
> >  visible sign of progress for six months, while we continue shipping
> >  non-free bits in main?
> I don't know whose fault it was.  After all what I know, it could
> still be ours.  Mako Hill has been surprisingly quiet on the issue, so
> I could imagine that the problem could lie on Debian's side.  For
> example, I wasn't able to find the name of the second Debian
> representative in the talks.
> > Is it ethical to take the convenient path to keep shipping non-free
> > stuff in main just bvecause, even though it is non-free, it is
> > useful, hiding behind the fact oh, we have been talking about it for
> > 2.5 years, let us keep on talking, with no end in sight, while
> > continuing to ship non-free stuff in main?
> It's not okay to be in negotiations officially while preparing to
> napalm the enemy.  Debian is on the verge of doing this, which makes
> me sad.
> It's acceptable to engage in action (well, not going to war, but doing
> *something* 8-), but it's necessary to declare that the negotiations
> have failed, preferably by those people who were envoys in those
> negotiations.

Mako: any comments about the state of the GFDL talks (eg. whether they
happened or not)?

Glenn Maynard

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