On Mon, 2003-12-01 at 02:57, Benj. Mako Hill wrote: > On Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 11:22:24PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > So last year (well, early this year), Bdale came up with the idea of > > "flavours", which unfortunately hasn't really gone anywhere yet. That idea > > basically goes "If Debian is the Universal Operating System -- that is, > > it can do everything you might want -- then doing any particular thing > > is just a matter of choosing some subset of Debian packages". That is, > > that custom CDs should just be a matter of saying "these are the packages > > that non-profits want -- please grab them, then burn them onto a bootable > > CD for me". No extra hacks, extra debs, or anything else -- they're all > > included in Debian. > > Speaking of labels... > > I don't know if I'd agree with the fact that it hasn't really gone > anyway. > > At Debconf in Oslo, we had a very productive meeting (or two) between > folks representing the people working within Debian to create custom > distributions. One of the things we agreed on was that the end of goal > of pretty much all of our projects was to be able to do everything we > wanted inside Debian in the way that Bdale described. > > We also decided that flavors, subprojects, metadistros, and other > projects who were interested in customizing Debian *from within* and > that "Custom Debian Distribution" was the term we could all agree on > and that we all thought was clear. > > I think that work by groups like Skolelinux and others under the > banner of creating custom distros has been inspired by and working > toward Bdale's flavors. For reasons of sanity and the number of terms > for the same thing already floating around for the same thing, it > might never be called that. :) I disagree - I think this is a great term, easily generic (and more importantly understandable) enough to embrace the others. Glad to have come across it. I think it is a useful distinction to unify references to. That helps pool development/ creative efforts wrt infrastructure, common marketing policies makes it easier for new sub projects, etc. Debian Enterprise - A Custom Debian Distribution That's perfect! > > The alternative is to look at Debian as a base, which has most of the > > stuff you wantbut doesn't do everything quite right, and then build > > derived distributions that fix the minor mistakes and fill in the missing > > bits to make it exactly what you want. > > > > That does work now, and it's what Knoppix and a bunch of others do, > > quite successfully. > > I think we're going to end up on a hybrid situation when we need to do > some of (b) because waiting for the infrasture (which we will have to > help create of course) for (a) will take to long and we'd like to give > people something to use in the meantime. :) Perfection takes a little while to achieve, yes :) Thanks to all, Zen -- NEW! The Debian Enterprise Project: http://debian-enterprise.org/ Homepage: http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~zenaan/ PGP Key: http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~zenaan/zen.asc Please respect this email's confidentiality as sensibly warranted.
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