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Re: Preparation of Debian GNU/Linux 3.0r2 (II)


On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 10:10:51AM +0900, GOTO Masanori wrote:
> At Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:43:04 +0900,
> Kenshi Muto wrote:
> > > I think if your request was phrased differently, I think the outcome
> > > may have been different.
> > > 
> > > What we agreed was HITACHI's claim in current shape can not be the
> > > reason to remove package.  
> > > 
> > > How we treat package with ugly data (both looks and history) is
> > > different issue.
> > 
> > I want to focus second issue. For me, what Hitachi talking is not
> > important.

You are with me.

> > This action starts and continues from Opensource software community in
> > Japan, not from Hitachi/Typebank. This action is not same as SCO :-)
> > 
> > Our (OSS comunity in Japan) rough consensus is "we don't use thing
> > from dirty source". Watanabe use dirty source (LABO123), Kochi in
> > Woody uses Watanabe.
> > There isn't any legal problem in this matter, but we hope to clean
> > dirty source ourself.

I think Steve or me will not fuss like this if this migration is just an
migration of testing/unstable packages.  Maintainer can do anything to
provide best possible packages in all respect including aesthetics.

> Exactly.
> As far as I saw the recognition in Japanese free software community is
> "don't use this dirty gray font considered with various law and
> issue".  AFAIK, almost all Japanese distributers (RedHat, Vine,
> Turbolinux, ...) removed these problematic fonts from their current
> image.  We sometimes discussed other distro developers with this
> issue, and our general concensus is: just replace with the alternative
> new kochi font family.

Eh... this is not popularity contest issue.  We are talking "stable"
updates.  If we remove them by the Hitachi's claim, it set bad
precidents.  In the legal world, once people accept some terms for
action under a set of certain conditions, they are expected to do the
same next time.   You should read Steve's comment iof this implication.

(Actually, the same logic applie to Hitachi.  By not pursuing this kind
of claim previously, they are running risk of loosing right even if they
had it at the first place.  I doubt they had any right to start with.)

> Even I heard from some users that they would like to use free fonts in
> pease.  I considered all these situation, and decided to replace kochi
> for stable.

They are free to choose any packages in archive.

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