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Re: Some observations regardig the progress towards Debian 3.1



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* Francesco P. Lovergine [Thu, Nov 20 2003, 11:39:23AM]:

> > This problem has caused much more time to be spent on this than what
> > would have been needed, for no other reason than "woody is outdated".
> 
> Not woody, but woody's kernels. I see no serious reasons to have an
> up-to-date kernel added to woody. In potato's days there were

I do. I have seen serious trouble compiling >= 2.4.20 for Woody. Either
it did not work with gcc-2.95, or became significantly larger so we
would have to drop some drivers (yeah, exactly that things that many
people see as the most serious problems). 

Increased size means: unsuitable for boot-floppies. And using gcc-3.0
(the other stable compiler in Woody) made it even larger. Plus there is
trouble with modules, some of the modules-* package in Woody, all of
them must be tested for compatibility with the new kernel and (tada) we
could often not get updates because of our Stable release policy. Plus
we would need modutils and procps upgrade because the old versions throw
weird error messages or refuse to work in some cases. So simply realize
it: Debian Stable is a dead horse WRT kernel upgrades and requires
backports to make them possible and work in the acceptably stable
manner.

> IMHO we should consider to update woody kernels ASAP.

Most thing are more complicated then they look.

MfG,
Eduard.
-- 
Das Vergnügen kann auf der Illusion beruhen, doch das Glück beruht
allein auf der Wahrheit.
		-- Nicolas Sébastien Chamfort



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