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Re: Re: Where are we now? (Was: Bits from the RM)



On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 04:10:21PM -0500, Chris Cheney arranged a set of bits into the following:
> On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 08:31:08PM +0200, Robert Lemmen wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 01:14:25PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
> > > Please don't do this yet, since dselect is still more self-documenting, 
> > > and therefore easier for new people to use.  :-P
> > 
> > please do! dselect (whil ebeing verty simple and functional) has the
> > most counter-intuitive user interface i have seen. the day i discovered
> > aptitude and got rid of dselect meant a big step forward for my persoanl
> > debian experience.
> 
> From what I have heard about aptitude it has the fun side effect of
> removing packages that it thinks you didn't purposely install. Also
> aptitude's sort function was more user unfriendly than dselect by far
> (just hit 'o').  I happen to use the sort option in dselect often. If
> aptitude can be used as dselect is now, eg hit 'g' to download just
> standard it will be ok I suppose.
Much as I like aptitude I can confirm this, recently installing a new
LDAP server I went in to aptitude to install some more packages (vim,
less, etc.) and I noticed (while watching it in action) that it removed
libnss-ldap and libpam-ldap. I immediatly killd it then (bad move).
Now as the machine authenticated via LDAP to our existing server and I
usually use SUDO this meant I couldn't become root to fix it (Both sudo
and su need to know who you are). I then rebooted.
Another bad move.
Aptitude had also removed raidtools2 and this server had /var on a software
raid5. It's surprisingly HARD to get dpkg going without a /var partition
(can't read man pages to figure it out on the machine). Eventually I
take a floppy and go over to the only other server running software raid
and cp its raidstart to the new server and get it up...

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