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Re: default MTA for sarge



On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 06:22:31PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 10:56:43 +1000
> Craig Sanders <cas@taz.net.au> wrote:
> > which tricks would they be?  gratuitously stating provable facts and
> > providing verifiable information?  i ought to be ashamed of such tricks,
> > right?
> 
>     No.  That would be giving half-assed arguments which you think are factual
> but are, in fact opinions (ie, the ease of configuration for MTA a vs. MTA b)
> as well as being demonstrated, time and again, that your verifiable
> information (given only half the time) is easily refuted.

<yawn>

come back when you have something worth saying.

i've noticed over the years that people who aren't able to make a valid point,
who have no facts or experience behind them will quickly descend to personal
attacks.

try sticking to arguing the issues.  you might retain (or even gain) some
credibility that way.


> > header_checks are applied against headers, but they are a completely
> > different thing to access lists.  they are a simple way of rejecting mail
> > based on regexp or pcre patterns in message headers and/or mime attachment
> > headers.  note the word simple, that basically means "first match 'wins'" -
> > if you want more complex filtering, then use a filter like SpamAssassin.
> 
>     Yes, and the order is based on the headers, not the order in the
>     configuration file:

well, duh.  headers come in arbitrary order.

that's why it's documented in the URL you mention, as well as several other
places.

> http://jimsun.linxnet.com/misc/postfix-anti-UCE.txt

es, clear and concise documentation that tells the reader what they need to
know about how it works.

you seem to have no problem finding documentation this time around.  would that
be because the point you're trying to make this time isn't about how hard it is
to find documentation?


> > sorry, i don't buy into the mediocrity line that all opinions have the same
> > worth.  the truism that everyone has the right to hold an opinion does not
> > mean that all opinions are worth the same, opinions have different worths
> > depending on the level of relevant experience and knowledge behind them.
> 
>     Except that is not what I said.  I said it doesn't matter much to other
> people what your opinion is because whether *THEY* find it easier or harder is
> not effected one iota by your opinion of whether or not it is easy.  As such
> you cannot claim to have a total lock on what is easy and what isn't.

i don't claim that.  i claim to have enough experience with many different MTAs
over the years that a) i am qualified to make a comparison and b) that my
opinion has some non-trivial worth.

by way of contrast, the opinion of someone who has only ever used one MTA
(whatever it is) in trivial setups isn't worth very much at all.

craig



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