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Re: Bug#169322: ITP: idesk -- plops icons down on your root window (desktop)

On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 03:13:30PM +0100, Jérôme Marant wrote:
> Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote:

> >After about two weeks I will choose - which part of desktop enviroment
> >to use but I think that it wont be GNOME2 - maybe GNOME 2.4 will be able
> >to replace GNOME 1.4 but when it will be...

> What exactly are your requirements? Why do you absolutely need a
> desktop environment?

1. window manager which will be able to keep all windows from application
on one desktop (like it is in windowmaker) without editing rc files (so
at now no (black|flux|open)box wm)

2. posibility to start apps by shortcuts, to manage windows by
shortcuts,  having "alt-Tab" switching windows (on current or on all
desktops) and to have it configurable easy.

3. panel with:
   - taskbar with grouping,
   - desktop pager,
   - quicklaunch or launchers,
   - menu which will list applications installed in my system (so no
     GNOME2 at now)

4. session manager with:
   - ability to save session at any time (not only at logout)
   - ability to add non-session aware programs to session

5. login manager

At now I used panels:

- gnome 1.x (starting from 1.0 to 1.4) - to be removed from Debian
- gnome 2.x - no menu (this which is as a menu is subtitute of substitute)
- kde 3.0.4 - I test it at now
- fspanel - lacks too meny things
- rox-filer panel - applets are not in Debian and needs too much patching

So good panels comes from desktop enviroments.

Session managers:

- windowmaker
- gnome-session from gnome1
- gnome-session from gnome2
- kde-session (or how it is called)

both last have very limited functionality - had to edit their configs

second thing is all those 'settings daemons' used by desktops.. At now I
mainly use GTK1 and GTK2 aplications. GTK1 use ~/.gtkrc to its look&feel
and doesn't need nothing more (theme sublibraries are loaded if needed).
GTK2 needs 'gnome-settings-daemon' started to have it look like it was
configured in gnome2-control-center (who likes GTK2 standard look?).

Before Debian (to which I switch over two years ago after selling my
Amiga) I used few GUI systems: AmigaOS 2.x/3.x, Microsoft Windows
3.x/9x/NT (and now I use it at work), MacOS 7.5/7.6.

Marcin 'Szczepan|Hrw' Juszkiewicz
mailto: marcin<at>amiga<dot>pl
my Debian packages: deb http://users.stone.pl/szczepan/ apt/

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