On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 08:48:40PM -0500, Jim Penny wrote: > On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 08:03:53PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > It hasn't so far. We have added packages to non-free faster than we've > > been getting rid of them.[1] > Anthony> total main contrib non-free %main %contrib %non-free > Anthony> bo 1188 980 31 115 82.5 2.6 9.7 > Anthony> hamm 1852 1524 101 227 82.3 5.5 12.3 > Anthony> slink 2664 2269 97 298 85.2 3.6 11.2 > Anthony> potato 4305 3889 123 293 90.3 2.9 6.8 > Anthony> woody 8766 8291 203 272 94.6 2.3 3.1 > Anthony> --------------------------------------------------------------- > Anthony> sarge 10283 9734 257 292 94.7 2.5 2.8 > Anthony> sid 11168 10555 306 307 94.5 2.7 2.7 > > Odd. I would say > 1) it has been essentially unchanged since slink. Well, if one wants to redefine "grown" as "essentally unchanged", yes. > 2) it has slowly been trending down. (with a bubble up in sid) 115 < 227 < 298 < 307 Packages that were unreleasable presumably weren't counted in the distribution release totals. That the number of non-free packages in unstable is larger than the number of non-free packages in any release is instructive. > 3) it is clearly diminishing in relation to total packages. ...which does not suggest that it is going to dwindle to zero on its own accord, as many defenders of the status quo have asserted. Do you want to propose that it would safe to dump all of non-free once it is has become a sufficiently small percentage of the total number of packages that Debian ships? That, at least, would be an objectively measurable way of resolving this issue. Clearly, 2.7% is too high a threshhold for some. How small shall the propotion get before we're not screwing our users by dumping non-free? 2.5%? 2.0% 1.5%? 1.0% 0.001%? > I would have thought that these measurements would put the "non-free is > growing explosively to the ruination of Debian" argument. I haven't see anyone make this argument. Have you a cite? -- G. Branden Robinson | I am sorry, but what you have Debian GNU/Linux | mistaken for malicious intent is branden@debian.org | nothing more than sheer http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | incompetence! -- J. L. Rizzo II
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