Hi Robert and all audio and multimedia developers, this thread offered me the opportunity to make a proposal to all the Debian developers interested in multimedia, but not necessarily limited to them, of course. Some of you might know about the existence of the AGNULA (A GNU Linux Audio Distribution) http://www.agnula.org. The AGNULA project continues the DeMuDi (Debian Multimedia Distribution http://www.demudi.org ) project with the help of the European Commission, an IST project (key action IV.3.3, Free Software: towards the critical mass). AGNULA should produce in the next two years a distribution totally dedicated to the multimedia and completely based on free software (somehow even more extreme than Debian itself...which means no non-free section at all). This wants to prove that free software has reached a high professional level in the audio realm, efficiency and it is reliable. Actually there will be at the end two distributions...one based on Debian and one Red Hat, which is technically developed by Red Hat France. Even if some of us can see that presence suspiciously, i find important that Red Had France agreed to produce a totally free software based distribution. In my personal idea, still when i started DeMuDi two years ago, i would have considered that eventually DeMuDi should have merged into Debian, this is the best way for such a project to survive (see Andreas Tille - Debian-med - paper...thanks Andreas) and the best way to make even more reach and interesting Debian. Now that AGNULA started, and inside Debian two similar projects, in different fields indeed, have started, Debian-junior and Debian-med, i would see the merging as a even more logical way to go....and thanks to the, very welcomed, pressure from Andreas Tille...:-) In fact, recently, it became even more clear to me that our, small team, even smaller if compared with the Debian *teams*, would have wasted time in replicating what in Debian already exists....repackaging applications that are already packaged in Debian and already up to date (according to the necessary security policies) would have made our effort worthless... what is instead rather important for us, or the best way for us to spend our resources, is rather where there isn't and already done job by Debian, so we should focus on: 1- working on a easy/fast, with a lot of auto configuring, installation for the specific Debian-multimedia (whether will be called Agnula/DeMuDi or Debian-multimedia etc.), sound card setup etc. (that could become useful in general). 2- working on a guided Tour to the system, *heavy* documentation, tutorials and examples, for with we could call core applications. (this task is already active and is lead by Dave Phillips) 3- writing a AGNULA-system manager apps, from where it will be possible to control and setup audio and related apps, browsing documentation (documentation will be written in docbook, so accessible then as info, html etc.). 4- packaging applications at the moment not available in Debian, either because not known or because problematic (because of license or because other problems ...see ardour thread here). Our first release is due by the end of November, which is quite close, and the following one will be in April 2003. My personal idea, dont blame if I'm going to say something that is not reasonable, even if i studied I'm not totally aware of the Debian policy details, would be that a process of integration could be done (if that will happen and the Debian community will agree on that) gradually for the April release, while the November release will still be *outside* Debian -still using Debian policies and woody - and could be seen as a *testing* version, where Debian developers could cooperate, if they wish, in order, not just to build the distribution/task, but also with ideas, criticism, etc, so, by April we could have a very solid Debian-Multimedia that could be integrated smoothly into the official Debian. Those Developers who are interested and want to contribute on the discussion and project development could join the Agnula mailing lists. Actually a first step into a integration would be to be able to create a Debian-multimedia mailing list in the official Debian mailing list section. I'm sorry for the very verbose mail, which, now that i reading twice, maybe could be a bit off topic for this specific mailing lists, but i wanted to be also sure that all developers, that could be interested, would have read this and hopefully all developers in the audio section. ...Actually i first extracted all mails for Debian maintainer in the sound section and was about to write to them...i felt miserably like a spammer, of course i was not, so i gave up the idea and sent here the message with the hope to reach all of you guys. Even if you have strong criticism, please do not hesitate to reply and let me know your opinion. I personally feel that AGNULA is an important project and really needed, that has the potential of improving the quality for the audio community, the free software community and last but not least the Debian Community. thank you for you patience in reading all this ..pamphlet... ciao, marco -- ************************************************************** * marco trevisani * * http://trevisani.mine.nu marco@centrotemporeale.it * * http://www.agnula.org -- A GNU/Linux Audio Distribution * * Neither MS-Word nor MS-PowerPoint attachments please: * * See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html * **************************************************************
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