Hello, On Sun, Jul 21, 2002 at 11:22:08AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > The current state of affairs, however, has two unfortunate properties: > > 1) There are two different ways to configure the same variables, one > for Gnome 1 programs; one for Gnome 2 programs. Since Christian > Marillat has elected not to maintain the old gnome 1 versions of > such packages as gnome-terminal, a user now MUST use a mix of gnome > 1 and gnome 2 things, and therefore encounters an inconsistent > configuration scheme. This is a bug. > > 2) The gnome 2 packages do not automatically read old user > configurations, and therefore when one replaces (say) the gnome 1 > version of gnome-terminal with the gnome 2 version, all user > customizations are lost. This is a violation of Debian policy, and > a bug. > > And, the more serious problem: > [...] There seems to no plan for a GNOME-2 transition. Some positions are 1) Jeff Waugh (one of the GNOME upstream people) advises us, that we will need both GNOME-1.4 and GNOME-2 in parallel in the archive for some time. See, for example, http://lists.debian.org/debian-gtk-gnome/2002/debian-gtk-gnome-200206/msg00293.html So our users could choose when they want to switch to GNOME-2. 2) Some people want to keep the GNOME-2 packages in experimental and the GNOME-1.4 packages in unstable, both under the same package name. I guess the idea is to rush them into unstable all at once. One argument for this is to avoid archive bloat. See, for example, http://lists.debian.org/debian-gtk-gnome/2002/debian-gtk-gnome-200207/msg00284.html 3) I don't understand Christian Marillats transition strategy, but he introduced some GNOME-2 pacakges into unstable, replacing the corresponding GNOME-1.4 packages. See, for example, http://lists.debian.org/debian-gtk-gnome/2002/debian-gtk-gnome-200207/msg00081.html So there is no plan. But I think we really should have one. Strategy 1 may be unnecessary work for the ftp masters and may bloat the archive. Possibility 2 may be a pain for our users. And I don't understand the possible advantages of 3. If every GNOME package maintainer decides for a way on his own, the mess will become even worse. I was thinking, maybe the technical committee could advise us here? Would this be possible? Is this in the area of responsibility of the technical committee? We clearly need a plan, and we seem not to be able to make one on our own. Jochen -- Omm (0)-(0) http://www.mathematik.uni-kl.de/~wwwstoch/voss/privat.html
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