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Re: hurd does NOT need /hurd

On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 10:33:09AM -0400, Nathan Hawkins wrote:
> Jails are kind of like the translators. They're a kernel-specifc (or 
> whatever the Hurd is supposed to be) add-on. They're useful, but more of 
> a nice-to-have add-on than an essential feature for an operating system. 
> Complete and usable TCP/IP support is not, and I, and many other people, 
> would classify firewalling as a required part of a complete TCP/IP 
> implementation.

Richard Stevens, TCP/IP Illustrated, Vol. 1 does mention firewall gateways
only three times (and has one book about it in the bibliography for
further reading).  I don't have the other two, so maybe someone can check if
he covers firewalling in those books in more detail.

He does not mention firewalling on non-gateway hosts.

I have not a lot experience with administration of network systems, but
what I have seen is that the common way to use firewalls is to buy them as
firewalls and use them to secure the LAN.

> FWIW, Debian GNU/FreeBSD will have firewalling tools. It looks like 
> there are two different firewall implementations supported by the 
> kernel, actually. There is also IPsec and IPv6 support.

FWIW, Debian GNU/Hurd will have ways to secure the network and services, too. 
It might even have firewall features.  But does the first version have
firewall features?  Maybe.  This depends on a lot of things, and all of them
are completely unrelated to how important firewalling really is.

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