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Re: Bug#139945: ITP: prokyon3 -- a multithreaded MP3 manager and tag editor for Linux.

On Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 12:41:12PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 12:03:55AM +0100, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
> > Of course I can start filing massive bug reports, but I thought it
> > would be better to just post some messages to debian-devel first so
> > that everybody can check his packages. 
> I don't see why you need to jump the gun. A minor bugreport saying 'hi,
> I just uploaded your package compiled for hurd. Looks like it would be
> appropriate to change the singular reference to linux in your
> description to something noting this' would be fine, too.

The problem is that this isn't the *only* place. Last time I installed
Debian GNU/Hurd debconf told me that I had to choose 'critical'
priority if I was new to the Debian GNU/Linux system. 

Yes, I know I haven't filed a bug against it. First of all the Hurd
and BSD ports don't release with woody. Besides that I want to check
all packages at the same time and file bug reports for all packages.
> Again, I was reading your initial remark as 'STOP: you say linux here,
> but did you actually noticed there are other ports around? I don't know
> if it would work under the hurd, but you should at least call it
> GNU/linux'.

It was meant a bit like that, but I wasn't sure about a special
dependency on Linux (I saw things about nfs and SMB on the
homepage). I could have been a bit more friendly however.
> > It wasn't even Gustavo's fault, he just copied from the website. 
> That's what I guessed. It's one thing trying to evangelize us DD's but
> try telling to somebody in the real world that there is something free
> besides Linux (or even RedHat...)

But Debian developers should give the good example. A lot of people
read their texts and might start using "GNU/Linux" themself. :)

> > (But I keep annoying the people making the mistakes and also expect
> > "doesn't build on Hurd" bugreports soon :-)
> I actually tried to find out how my packages did for hurd some time ago.
> It was quite a PITA to find the website and wasn't really informative.

To give an answer: they don't. :)

We are almost ready for the ABI change, we will start building
packages soon. We are going to use buildd for that, so it should be as
easy as tracking other ports.

> If I did not have a notebook with PCMCIA ethernet and a serial modem,
> (and only a small hardisk until some months ago), I would have tried to
> install the hurd year(s) ago. 

Good news: PPP already works and somebody else is working on PCMCIA (I
heard today the basic things are working).

> I was quite intrigued by the couple of
> Hurd CD's robster got on Sunday and will try to download and burn them
> as soon as I got my broadband back in two weeks or so (/me sobs about
> his misfortune)

The current archive is pretty old. The next snapshot will have major
improvements (libc0.3, gnumach 2 with linux 2.2 drivers and of course
a new snapshot of the Hurd). We are really getting to a releasable

Jeroen Dekkers
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