Re: Debian doesn't have to be slower than time.
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 06:05:36PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Jeroen Dekkers wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 04:55:04PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > > Make that "have all locales correctly deal with UTF8". If the user wants to
> > > use his locale with an UTF8 charset, so be it. Otherwise, leave it alone.
> >
> > I don't see why using UTF8 as default is bad. UTF8 is the way it's
>
> Then enlighten yourself in the whole issue using Google before you speak
> about what you don't know.
>
> Hint: UTF8 is not the problem. Unicode is. And the major problem is in the
> compatibility CJK set.
>
this has already been discussed to _death_ here and everywhere.
As long as the Japanese users do not mix chinese and korean, UTF-8
is adequate for them (heck, windows 2000/XP works internally
in unicode, and just translates output to other legacy Japanese
encodings for communication with outer world).
In this sense, using UTF-8 is no worse than using current japanese
encodings.
However, just mentioning the word "unicode" to a Japanese user
carries a lot of negative emotional presumptions and will be met
with strong criticism.
> > doesn't restrict you in any way AFAICT. So I think using UTF8 as the
> > default does make sense.
>
> Do your research, and learn. Regardless of what side of the issue with
I did, I learnt.
> Unicode and CJK one decides to be in, it is _clearly_ not a simple matter,
> and your careless comments show you have no idea of the issue at hand.
I agree. But having UTF-8 as default indeed DOES simplify things,
and indeed is not THAT bad even for Japanese users - of course,
it goes without saying that they can easily switch to other encodings
if they desire so (could be even default for Japanese locale,
after all - and everyone is happy)
>
> Ask our resident Japanese i18n especialists what they would think of a
> proposal of UTF8 being the default charset for every locale. The answers
> should at the very least give you an idea of the amount of effort it would
> take to get such a useless proposal through.
useless?
UTF-8 is currently the only way I can efficiently communicate in.
And it is the only encoding in which there are czech/slovak characters
and EURO sign (iso-8859-17 anyone?).
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