[Date Prev][Date Next] [Thread Prev][Thread Next] [Date Index] [Thread Index]

Re: debian-devel-digest Digest V101 #254



>------------------------------

>Content-Type: text/plain

>debian-devel-digest Digest				Volume 101 : Issue 254

>To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-digest-request@lists.debian.org
>with a subject of "unsubscribe".  Trouble?  Contact listmaster@debian.org.

>Today's Topics:
>  Re: ITP: mta-dummy                    [ Adam McKenna <adam@debian.org> ]
>  Re: lintian, strip --strip-unneeded,  [ "Christopher C. Chimelis" <chris@de ]
>  Re: lintian, strip --strip-unneeded,  [ "Christopher C. Chimelis" <chris@de ]
>  Re: Packages without tarball on ftp-  [ barbier@linuxfr.org (Denis Barbier) ]
>  Re: iptables                          [ Brian May <bam@debian.org> ]
>  Re: Bug#122443: general: Zope fails   [ Andreas Rottmann <a.rottmann@gmx.at ]
>  Bug#122615: general: typo in at man   [ Mike Castle <mcastle@yy.com> ]
>  Re: Installed lilo 1:22.1-4 (i386 so  [ Roland Bauerschmidt <rb@debian.org> ]
>  Re: libglib1.2 falling behind libgtk  [ Gustavo Noronha Silva <kov@debian.o ]
>  Re: X autoconfiguration               [ Gustavo Noronha Silva <kov@debian.o ]
>  get in the action                     [ "get some" <getnoticed@getfriction. ]
>  Re: ITP: mta-dummy                    [ Adrian Bunk <bunk@fs.tum.de> ]
>  Re: lintian, strip --strip-unneeded,  [ "Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <shalehperry@ ]
>  Re: lintian, strip --strip-unneeded,  [ "Christopher C. Chimelis" <chris@de ]
>  Re: ITP: mta-dummy                    [ Jean Charles Delepine <delepine@u-p ]
>  Re: ogle stuck in incoming?           [ Svante Signell <svante.signell@teli ]
>  Re: ogle stuck in incoming?           [ Svante Signell <svante.signell@teli ]

>------------------------------

>Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 12:58:10 -0800
>From: Adam McKenna <adam@debian.org>
>To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: ITP: mta-dummy
>Message-ID: <20011205125810.M15577@flounder.net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>Content-Disposition: inline

>On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 03:48:31PM -0500, Jacob Kuntz wrote:
>> On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 12:35:52PM -0800, Adam McKenna wrote:
>> > 2) Several high-priority packages depend on mail-transport-agent.  Again,
>> > most programs depending on (e.g.) httpd or ftpd are optional add-on packages 
>> > such as kwuftpd or analog.  This makes it much harder to remove the currently
>> > installed MTA without breaking dependencies, because you'd have to remove
>> > things like at and cron.
>> 
>> dpkg --purge --force-depends some-lame-mta

>Yes, you can do that, if you want apt to complain about broken packages every
>time you run it and not allow you to install anything else until the
>dependency is fixed.  Even if this wasn't the case, what do you think would
>happen when a package that depends on m-t-a was upgraded?  Or if I wanted to
>install some new package that depends on m-t-a?

>--Adam

>-- 
>Adam McKenna  <adam@debian.org>  <adam@flounder.net>

>------------------------------

>Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 16:21:46 -0500 (EST)
>From: "Christopher C. Chimelis" <chris@debian.org>
>To: Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net>
>cc: Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org>, debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: lintian, strip --strip-unneeded, section, and priority
>Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0112051616340.25759-100000@spawn.hockeyfiend.com>
>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

>On Wed, 5 Dec 2001, Dale Scheetz wrote:

>> > Not sure why strip doesn't remove these ...
>> 
>> Me either. Is it a bug?

>Nope.  --strip-unneeded just removes SYMBOLS that aren't needed for
>relocation processing, not sections.  I'll quote the docs:

>`--strip-unneeded'
>     Remove all symbols that are not needed for relocation processing.

>If you want to remove sections like .note and .comment, then you'll have
>to explicitely do so with -R.

>Off-list update: I just wrote back to Dale about this off-list and figured
>that it may be time for me to improve dh_strip a bit to have it detect
>whether or not it can safely remove .comment and/or .note before blindly
>doing so.  In some cases (Xserver modules on alpha, for example), to
>remove .comment and .note will break things, but while I don't want those
>bits to be stripped, I don't see the point of the rest of the binaries in
>the package that don't have a problem being stripped remaining unstripped.
>I'm not sure I can catch the X situation into some kind of test, but I'll
>certainly try.  The end result should be a more intelligent
>dh_strip.

>I'll also try to come up with something for non-debhelper packages to
>include that accomplishes the same thing.

>C

>------------------------------

>Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 16:24:11 -0500 (EST)
>From: "Christopher C. Chimelis" <chris@debian.org>
>To: Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net>
>cc: Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org>, debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: lintian, strip --strip-unneeded, section, and priority
>Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0112051623300.25759-100000@spawn.hockeyfiend.com>
>Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

>Oh, and I'll also see if I can improve lintian's test while I'm at it.

>FYI, this is low on my priority list, but I'll try to squeeze it in as
>soon as I can.

>C

>On Wed, 5 Dec 2001, Christopher C. Chimelis wrote:

>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, 5 Dec 2001, Dale Scheetz wrote:
>> 
>> > > Not sure why strip doesn't remove these ...
>> > 
>> > Me either. Is it a bug?
>> 
>> Nope.  --strip-unneeded just removes SYMBOLS that aren't needed for
>> relocation processing, not sections.  I'll quote the docs:
>> 
>> `--strip-unneeded'
>>      Remove all symbols that are not needed for relocation processing.
>> 
>> If you want to remove sections like .note and .comment, then you'll have
>> to explicitely do so with -R.
>> 
>> Off-list update: I just wrote back to Dale about this off-list and figured
>> that it may be time for me to improve dh_strip a bit to have it detect
>> whether or not it can safely remove .comment and/or .note before blindly
>> doing so.  In some cases (Xserver modules on alpha, for example), to
>> remove .comment and .note will break things, but while I don't want those
>> bits to be stripped, I don't see the point of the rest of the binaries in
>> the package that don't have a problem being stripped remaining unstripped.
>> I'm not sure I can catch the X situation into some kind of test, but I'll
>> certainly try.  The end result should be a more intelligent
>> dh_strip.
>> 
>> I'll also try to come up with something for non-debhelper packages to
>> include that accomplishes the same thing.
>> 
>> C
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-request@lists.debian.org
>> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org
>> 
>> 
>> 

>------------------------------

>Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 22:34:11 +0100
>From: barbier@linuxfr.org (Denis Barbier)
>To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: Packages without tarball on ftp-master
>Message-ID: <20011205223411.A9264@zobe.linuxfr.org>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>Content-Disposition: inline

>On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 09:48:48PM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> the following packages have no tarball on ftp-master:
>>   libhonyaku-damashii-ruby m-tx musixlyr nestra tkirc vchkpw
>> Bugreports have been filed against these packages, but what is strange
>> is that they all reside under contrib section (there is no such problem
>> with main and

*** Your message did not reach its recipient ***
It was caught by the mailing system as spam.
If this message is not spam and you feel that
this message was caught in error, please email
a note to spam_filter@netfx-2000.net.
If this message is spam, knock it off!
This server is in California where it is illegal 
to spam! We do not accept spam here!
We will go after all spammers to the maximum
extent of the law!



Reply to: