Re: debian-devel-digest Digest V101 #254
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>debian-devel-digest Digest Volume 101 : Issue 254
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>Today's Topics:
> Re: ITP: mta-dummy [ Adam McKenna <adam@debian.org> ]
> Re: lintian, strip --strip-unneeded, [ "Christopher C. Chimelis" <chris@de ]
> Re: lintian, strip --strip-unneeded, [ "Christopher C. Chimelis" <chris@de ]
> Re: Packages without tarball on ftp- [ barbier@linuxfr.org (Denis Barbier) ]
> Re: iptables [ Brian May <bam@debian.org> ]
> Re: Bug#122443: general: Zope fails [ Andreas Rottmann <a.rottmann@gmx.at ]
> Bug#122615: general: typo in at man [ Mike Castle <mcastle@yy.com> ]
> Re: Installed lilo 1:22.1-4 (i386 so [ Roland Bauerschmidt <rb@debian.org> ]
> Re: libglib1.2 falling behind libgtk [ Gustavo Noronha Silva <kov@debian.o ]
> Re: X autoconfiguration [ Gustavo Noronha Silva <kov@debian.o ]
> get in the action [ "get some" <getnoticed@getfriction. ]
> Re: ITP: mta-dummy [ Adrian Bunk <bunk@fs.tum.de> ]
> Re: lintian, strip --strip-unneeded, [ "Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <shalehperry@ ]
> Re: lintian, strip --strip-unneeded, [ "Christopher C. Chimelis" <chris@de ]
> Re: ITP: mta-dummy [ Jean Charles Delepine <delepine@u-p ]
> Re: ogle stuck in incoming? [ Svante Signell <svante.signell@teli ]
> Re: ogle stuck in incoming? [ Svante Signell <svante.signell@teli ]
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>Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 12:58:10 -0800
>From: Adam McKenna <adam@debian.org>
>To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: ITP: mta-dummy
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 20011205125810.M15577@flounder.net>
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>On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 03:48:31PM -0500, Jacob Kuntz wrote:
>> On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 12:35:52PM -0800, Adam McKenna wrote:
>> > 2) Several high-priority packages depend on mail-transport-agent. Again,
>> > most programs depending on (e.g.) httpd or ftpd are optional add-on packages
>> > such as kwuftpd or analog. This makes it much harder to remove the currently
>> > installed MTA without breaking dependencies, because you'd have to remove
>> > things like at and cron.
>>
>> dpkg --purge --force-depends some-lame-mta
>Yes, you can do that, if you want apt to complain about broken packages every
>time you run it and not allow you to install anything else until the
>dependency is fixed. Even if this wasn't the case, what do you think would
>happen when a package that depends on m-t-a was upgraded? Or if I wanted to
>install some new package that depends on m-t-a?
>--Adam
>--
>Adam McKenna <adam@debian.org> <adam@flounder.net>
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>Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 16:21:46 -0500 (EST)
>From: "Christopher C. Chimelis" <chris@debian.org>
>To: Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net>
>cc: Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org>, debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: lintian, strip --strip-unneeded, section, and priority
>Message-ID: <[🔎] Pine.LNX.4.21.0112051616340.25759-100000@spawn.hockeyfiend.com>
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>On Wed, 5 Dec 2001, Dale Scheetz wrote:
>> > Not sure why strip doesn't remove these ...
>>
>> Me either. Is it a bug?
>Nope. --strip-unneeded just removes SYMBOLS that aren't needed for
>relocation processing, not sections. I'll quote the docs:
>`--strip-unneeded'
> Remove all symbols that are not needed for relocation processing.
>If you want to remove sections like .note and .comment, then you'll have
>to explicitely do so with -R.
>Off-list update: I just wrote back to Dale about this off-list and figured
>that it may be time for me to improve dh_strip a bit to have it detect
>whether or not it can safely remove .comment and/or .note before blindly
>doing so. In some cases (Xserver modules on alpha, for example), to
>remove .comment and .note will break things, but while I don't want those
>bits to be stripped, I don't see the point of the rest of the binaries in
>the package that don't have a problem being stripped remaining unstripped.
>I'm not sure I can catch the X situation into some kind of test, but I'll
>certainly try. The end result should be a more intelligent
>dh_strip.
>I'll also try to come up with something for non-debhelper packages to
>include that accomplishes the same thing.
>C
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>Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 16:24:11 -0500 (EST)
>From: "Christopher C. Chimelis" <chris@debian.org>
>To: Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net>
>cc: Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org>, debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: lintian, strip --strip-unneeded, section, and priority
>Message-ID: <[🔎] Pine.LNX.4.21.0112051623300.25759-100000@spawn.hockeyfiend.com>
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>Oh, and I'll also see if I can improve lintian's test while I'm at it.
>FYI, this is low on my priority list, but I'll try to squeeze it in as
>soon as I can.
>C
>On Wed, 5 Dec 2001, Christopher C. Chimelis wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 5 Dec 2001, Dale Scheetz wrote:
>>
>> > > Not sure why strip doesn't remove these ...
>> >
>> > Me either. Is it a bug?
>>
>> Nope. --strip-unneeded just removes SYMBOLS that aren't needed for
>> relocation processing, not sections. I'll quote the docs:
>>
>> `--strip-unneeded'
>> Remove all symbols that are not needed for relocation processing.
>>
>> If you want to remove sections like .note and .comment, then you'll have
>> to explicitely do so with -R.
>>
>> Off-list update: I just wrote back to Dale about this off-list and figured
>> that it may be time for me to improve dh_strip a bit to have it detect
>> whether or not it can safely remove .comment and/or .note before blindly
>> doing so. In some cases (Xserver modules on alpha, for example), to
>> remove .comment and .note will break things, but while I don't want those
>> bits to be stripped, I don't see the point of the rest of the binaries in
>> the package that don't have a problem being stripped remaining unstripped.
>> I'm not sure I can catch the X situation into some kind of test, but I'll
>> certainly try. The end result should be a more intelligent
>> dh_strip.
>>
>> I'll also try to come up with something for non-debhelper packages to
>> include that accomplishes the same thing.
>>
>> C
>>
>>
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>Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 22:34:11 +0100
>From: barbier@linuxfr.org (Denis Barbier)
>To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: Packages without tarball on ftp-master
>Message-ID: <[🔎] 20011205223411.A9264@zobe.linuxfr.org>
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>On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 09:48:48PM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> the following packages have no tarball on ftp-master:
>> libhonyaku-damashii-ruby m-tx musixlyr nestra tkirc vchkpw
>> Bugreports have been filed against these packages, but what is strange
>> is that they all reside under contrib section (there is no such problem
>> with main and
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