Re: apache2: clearing the air [please read]
On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 08:55:32PM +0200, Tomas Pospisek wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Oct 2001, Joey Hess wrote:
> > No, if it can't be automated, it can't be automated, and admins will
> > have to do it by hand. The fact remains that a *lot* of admins are
> > eventually going to want to upgrade to apache2, and the upgrade path
> > should be as painless as possible.
> >
> > If it already requires manual config file conversion, then stacking
> > vhosting changes and default web document root changes on top of that is
> > beginning to ask a heck of a lot from the admin. If we make it too hard
> > we will just get a lot of admins swearing, compiling the new version of
> > apache from sources, and losing faith in debian.
>
> What you describe exactly happened here:
>
> after the x-th upgrade that broke my running apache config and a lot of
> swearing (mind you again, our setup here is very simple and differs only
> minimally from the default) I first thought about moving on to compiling
> apache from source - apache-toolbox would've helped - but I didn't have
> the time so I just stopped upgrading apache unless I was *forced* to do
> it. I don't know about others.
>
> (Which is not to say that I didn't appreciate netgod's effort, he just
> couldn't keep up.)
>
> > And I'm concerned that the focus of these apache2 packages that
> > have been produced is not such upgrades, and that the people who have
> > worked on them have seemed to entirely disregrade that problem in the
> > mail at the head of this thread.
>
> Your concern may be valid - you have to check with them.
As I have repeated quite a few times, it wasn't my main concern. I can't
speak for Thom. My ideal path would be apache->apache and new apache2
install, side-by-side, a2 on a different port->customise your
config->apache2. Consider that upstream is still alpha (maybe beta if
they can all agree for the first time since about April), so you're not
too likely to be migrating production yet.
--
Daniel Stone <daniel@sfarc.net>
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