On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 02:25:34AM -0400, Andres Salomon wrote: > Why would you keep something around if you don't want to run it? Debian > makes the (correct) assumption that if you've installed something, you > want to run it. If i install bind, it will assume i want it to run. If > i install exim, it will first configure it for me (prompting me), and > then assume i want to run it. Why should portmap be any different? > The question you should be asking is, why is portmap installed by default? > Similiarly, is there something that can be done during installation that > asks the user if certain things (nfs) that require portmap should be > installed. If there's nothing that depends on portmap, then default > to not installing portmap. Having daemons shut off by default is > not the way to go, however. Actually there are some packages that depend on a mail-transport-agent, (such as lilo->logrotate->mailx), yet one may not want to have an MTA running on certain systems. I suppose a dummy or minimal MTA may be used (and may exist, I'm not aware), but this certainly highlights the need to be able to disable daemons but still have them installed; especially since most MTA's still have certain functionality even when not listening on port 25. Another common one is xdm (even though it's more than just a network daemon), which task-x-window-system depends on, and to remove xdm one must remove task-x-window-system. > > > On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 10:29:58PM -0600, Dwayne C. Litzenberger wrote: > > > > Why does a server automatically get run just because it's installed? For > > instance, portmap is installed by default whether you're using NFS or not, and > > bnetd runs even if I just installed the package for bnchat. Shouldn't the > > default be to not run daemons unless they are explicitly enabled, like an > > "exit" at the beginning of all daemon-starting init scripts that must be > > commented out? > > > > -- > > Dwayne C. Litzenberger - dlitz@dlitz.net > > > > -- > "... being a Linux user is sort of like living in a house inhabited > by a large family of carpenters and architects. Every morning when > you wake up, the house is a little different. Maybe there is a new > turret, or some walls have moved. Or perhaps someone has temporarily > removed the floor under your bed." - Unix for Dummies, 2nd Edition > -- found in the .sig of Rob Riggs, rriggs@tesser.com > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-request@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org > -- ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ;; Matthew Danish email: mdanish@andrew.cmu.edu ;; ;; GPG public key available from: 'finger mrd@db.debian.org' ;; ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
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